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		|  04-03-2007, 06:21 PM | #1 |  
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				Attempted Scam
			 
 Okay, what do you guys think of this response I just recieved for an item I have listed on Craigs List.  
 Hello
 Thanks for the response, I think i am okay with present condition of the item. I will love to make an outright purchase of it so i will advice you withdraw it from the ad site. I prefer to issue you a cashier's check in US dollars after which a mover will be coming over for the pick up as soon as it clears at the bank. Be informed that in other for the check to be written out in your name, you will have to drop off your full names, address and importantly your home and mobile phone number in your next reply.
 Please stay intouch as i do not want this to take much time.
 Thanks
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		|  04-03-2007, 06:34 PM | #2 |  
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				 | Very strange wording. It's odd really..I don't like it.
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		|  04-03-2007, 06:37 PM | #3 |  
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				 | Seems kind of sketchy to me there is no need for that much info on any purchace  Casheirs check's don't need to clear a bank do they? I thought there as good as cash I'd rather get the buyers info than the sellers ,/// Bill of sale , Tail light gaurentee, to bad so sadLink
 ps: I'm sure someone with legal knowledge on this board has input , Mike P???
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		|  04-03-2007, 06:38 PM | #4 |  
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				 | The phone number is listed to a mobile in Lancaster CA. It is suspicious, but on the other hand, I have the item and it wont go anywhere until I'm ready to let it go.  I have heard of cashiers checks clearing temporarily and then being recalled as fraudulent.   I'm thinking reverse scam-time. |  
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		|  04-03-2007, 06:53 PM | #5 |  
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				 | The wording sounds like someone who is foreign. No good in english and there is no reason for the seller to give that kind of info,,,  I would not even respond to the person,,, |  
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		|  04-03-2007, 07:21 PM | #6 |  
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				 no no no  please respond 
 it can only get better and deeper in BULL S H I T   and be a great source of entertainment... 
ask him why  he wants it removed   ...and why cant he send cash    
does he think he's the only interested party...
 
why does he want it....so  bad...  
 
it has to go to a special person because it's full of good  mojo  lol  
 
keep him  talkin   lol , and      ask him a million questions |  
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		|  04-03-2007, 08:00 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence   |  Just for the Hell of it, I responded that I require a non-refundable cash deposit for the full purchase price delivered via bonded courier for all Cashier Check transactions and a 25% check handling fee.   Let's see. |  
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		|  04-03-2007, 08:31 PM | #9 |  
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				 | I had a few of these when selling a boat, I had fun with one, went 10-15 email exchanges before they got fed up. The next email from the guy will say that he's going to send you too much money, and to send the rest back. I ignored most of these emails and sold the boat to a nice kid locally, for real money(although he got a nice deal). |  
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		|  04-04-2007, 08:00 AM | #10 |  
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				 | If you think the item will sell, don't deal with this guy. The wording sounds fishy.  Why help out someone who might be a crook - even if you get your money.  Don't do it. |  
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		|  04-04-2007, 08:27 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  If you think the item will sell, don't deal with this guy. The wording sounds fishy.  Why help out someone who might be a crook - even if you get your money.  Don't do it. |  Theres absolutely no doubt left that this is a scam.  I'm just looking for creative ways to torture the guy now. |  
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		|  04-04-2007, 08:43 AM | #12 |  
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				 | I got the same thing a while ago when I was selling a sailboat. I got the IP address, called the FBI and reported them with thier phone number. They said most likely they wouldn't follow up but its a common scam. The check will clear at first and about 2 weeks later it will bounce. They will send extra and what you to send cash back for shipping. Thats where they get you.
 The guy who tried to scam me knew nothing about sailboats, I knew right awas it was a scam so I asked him if he minded that the spiniker normally ties directly to the propeller and the main sail is a right handed model. He said thats fine when can he have me ship it and send the money back.
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		|  04-04-2007, 10:12 AM | #13 |  
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				 | Sluggo, that's funny! He should of known right off that sailboats don't use sails anymore they just motor around thinking they have the right of way.   |  
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		|  04-04-2007, 10:14 AM | #14 |  
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				 | if you do play around with the guy do not remove the funds from the bank.  if you do you are responsible to return the money to the bank.  wait until the check either clears or not so you are not responsible for fines and penalties to the bank.  
 personally I would leave it alone and report him to cragslist web security.
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		|  04-04-2007, 10:32 AM | #15 |  
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				 | It's a scam.....It happened to me when selling a boat recently.
 The guy was a foreigner, but had a client here in the US that wanted my boat. Sent me a Cashiers Check drawn on the Chevy Chase Bank in MD. I deposited the check and sure enough the next day the funds were available. I was a bit leary after the wierd communications, so I went to talk with my bank manager. He was able to bring up a photo of the check on the computer, then called the Chevy Chase Bank to verify the numbers.
 The result was that the numbers didn't match. The check did not exist. It was a fugazi.
 My bank turned this info over to their fraud dept.
 
 Beware!!!!!!!!!!
 
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		|  04-04-2007, 11:05 AM | #16 |  
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				 | yup, that is a very very common scam, just ignore the whole thing and find a local buyer |  
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		|  04-05-2007, 09:10 AM | #17 |  
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				 | The wording sounds like every foreign spam / scam email I receive about eight times a day at the shop.
 "Hello good friend:
 
 I desires to purchess from your ESTEEEMED company 25 Shimano Stella FA20000 spinnging reels for my client here in Malaysia."
 
 
 
 Sure, we'll get right on that...
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		|  04-05-2007, 10:37 AM | #18 |  
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				 | If they would learn to compose these letters in proper English they would be far more succesful. |  
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		|  04-05-2007, 10:57 AM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by stripersnipr  Theres absolutely no doubt left that this is a scam.  I'm just looking for creative ways to torture the guy now. |  This is a scam, pure and simple.  The guy is probably from Nigeria or a neighboring country.  Play with him, torture him, but don't give him anything |  
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		|  04-05-2007, 11:01 AM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by TC23  Play with him, torture him, but don't give him anything |  I wouldn't even do that...just delete and ignore.
 
Would you do the same with a huster on the street?
 
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		|  04-05-2007, 11:23 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  I wouldn't even do that...just delete and ignore.
 Would you do the same with a huster on the street?
 
 -spence
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