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		|  12-14-2004, 02:40 PM | #31 |  
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				 | I turned a couple hundred this morning!  |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 04:02 PM | #32 |  
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				 | Still say the picture looks more like a zara then a pencil OR reverse atom, Flap.     But I get where you're coming from. |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 04:24 PM | #33 |  
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				 | dave the yellow paint is way cool...  good luck 
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		|  12-14-2004, 04:39 PM | #34 |  
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				 | its a Prancer. They been around along time   |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 05:46 PM | #35 |  
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		| Originally posted by Krispy its a Prancer. They been around along time
   |  show me a pic 
what the %$%$%$%$ I work a few years on a plug and now im told what it is. 
 how quick we forget about plugs and who was doing what and putting time in. 
no i didnt invent the wheel im just trying to make the %$%$%$%$ing thing square thats all........ |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 05:53 PM | #36 |  
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				 | It's true now that I just came up from the cave it does resemble an Arbogast Prancer. The Prancer had an external lead tail though. This version, BM's, is slightly thinner now than the ones I saw him test and that Prancer is thin as well. I would chock that up to coincidence.  |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 05:54 PM | #37 |  
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				 | All the "props" to you BM...you da man!   You do nice work and you put alot into your plugs.  |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 05:58 PM | #38 |  
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		| Originally posted by Flaptail It's true now that I just came up from the cave it does resemble an Arbogast Prancer. The Prancer had an external lead tail though. This version, BM's, is slightly thinner now than the ones I saw him test and that Prancer is thin as well. I would chock that up to coincidence.
   |  flap post a pic? does the plug have a round nose? 
you seen that plug i think 32 or 3 years ago so You seen it evolve. 
 why are there so many %$%$%$%$%$%$%$s out here? |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 06:06 PM | #39 |  
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				 | Dave, I do not have a pic but I know the Arbogast plug well as I had a couple but they are long gone now. Your plug, by shear coincidence, looks a lot like it but there are disimilarities as well. The eye loop was in the same place and the action was the same as well as the plug dimensions ( lengthxwidth). The Prancer hasn't been made in 25 years at least.  |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 06:08 PM | #40 |  
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 When in the Lord's safe landing net I'm peacefully asleep,
 That in His mercy I be judged, as big enough to keep.
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		|  12-14-2004, 06:14 PM | #41 |  
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				 | what the %$%$%$%$ does that thing have to do with what i madejesus chris all %$%$%$%$ing mity
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		|  12-14-2004, 06:15 PM | #42 |  
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		| Originally posted by Flaptail Dave, I do not have a pic but I know the Arbogast plug well as I had a couple but they are long gone now. Your plug, by shear coincidence, looks a lot like it but there are disimilarities as well. The eye loop was in the same place and the action was the same as well as the plug dimensions ( lengthxwidth). The Prancer hasn't been made in 25 years at least.
   |  thanks. I really want to see one now |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 06:31 PM | #43 |  
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				 | i think they look pissa!! 
i'd like to troll one of those surfsters way back on wire in a certian channel in boston. way too deep for anyone else   like cod deep. 
or on a 3 way with about 16 oz when the tide is rippin' 4+kts and tears up the live bait. those would kill. 
i notice a little marbly freaky paint there too. very nice  |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 06:50 PM | #44 |  
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				 | Who cares ???It's a cross between a fred Arbogast Prancer/ dasher and a
 Smithwick Wood Devils Horse Prancer Fishing!
 SEnd me one so I can get a better look please.
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		|  12-14-2004, 07:26 PM | #45 |  
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				 | Hi VB.    Hi freak  |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 07:30 PM | #46 |  
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				 | The top one in yellow and black reminds me of a Panzer tank from WWII.
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		|  12-14-2004, 07:33 PM | #47 |  
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		| Originally posted by spence The top one in yellow and black reminds me of a Panzer tank from WWII.
 
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 |  cool now im a nazi   
all you need to do is break up the solid color with black paint actually. the mack may have its times but as a fisherman the above is all you really need |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 08:43 PM | #48 |  
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				 | Got two prancers one from the beach and one from the welfoot flea. Their action sorks! BM's wood definately don't sork. if ya can keep thebloos away   I really don't see much resemblance between those two lures   Panzer Mac, I love that name. |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 08:48 PM | #49 |  
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				 | Dave you should keep the plugs stashed away in the man cave because some here are jealous..  |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 10:29 PM | #50 |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 10:33 PM | #51 |  
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				 | Jealous    gimme a break     Everyone knows me , knows Im busting on BM. He knows it too. Just some fun   |  
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		|  12-14-2004, 10:43 PM | #52 |  
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				 | krissy You got a pic of one of those plugs? 
I doubr there any thing like what I have made as size and weighting go..... 
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		|  12-21-2004, 03:30 PM | #53 |  
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				NEW PROTOTYPE
			 
 I've been following this discussion and in fairness to BM offer the following suggestion. As an independent observer I will be willing to provide my services. Just send me one sample of each color of the new plug in every size available and I will carefully analize weigh and field test them for you. 
In six to eight months I'll give you a detailed written report. 
This should  help to avoid and eliminate any possible claims of patent infringement or copy catting . 
Since it is Christmas time I will forgo my usual fee for this important service. 
Happy Holidays to all 
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		|  12-21-2004, 04:20 PM | #54 |  
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				 | BM nice work...anyone that puts that kind of time in and effort deserves some props...credit where credit is due...  |  
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