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		|  03-16-2016, 09:45 AM | #31 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  He doesn't help her electorally at all.  She's not going to put a socialist on her ticket.  Do you have any guesses?  Maybe a popular, liberal governor? |  Throw us a curve ball Hillary, select whoever comes in second in the GOP primary as your VP. 
 
Who do you vote for?
 
Trump & his sock puppet      vs.      Hillary/Cruz  or Hillary/Kasich 
 
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		|  03-16-2016, 01:28 PM | #32 |  
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				 | I'm still sticking to my guns that everyone is going to be feeling the bern next year. Wait until California, Oregon and Washington vote.   Swing state in my opinion is NY.. I bet that state has had enough of her chit and it will go to Bernie.  This is far from over.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-21-2016, 11:41 PM | #33 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nebe  I'm still sticking to my guns that everyone is going to be feeling the bern next year. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-22-2016, 07:02 AM | #34 |  
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				 | theres a lot to be cranky about.   In other news the Bernie campaign raised DOUBLE the money last month as Hillary did and at a rally in Washington, 35 THOUSAND people attended.   But you won't hear it on the news.
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		|  03-22-2016, 08:46 AM | #35 |  
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		|  03-26-2016, 07:32 PM | #36 |  
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				 | Wow. Bernie SMOKED Clinton today.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-26-2016, 07:57 PM | #37 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nebe  Wow. Bernie SMOKED Clinton today.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Eben, you know what to do if the erection lasts more than 4 hours    
The Latest: Clinton Delegate Lead Strong Despite Losses
 
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON — Mar 26, 2016, 8:00 PM 
 
The Latest on the Democratic presidential nominating contests Saturday in Alaska, Hawaii and Washington state (all times local):
 
7:45 p.m.
 
Bernie Sanders clearly had a good day, winning big in Washington state and Alaska. But that's not impacting Hillary Clinton's overall lead in the Democratic presidential race much due to a smaller pool of delegates at stake Saturday. |  
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		|  03-26-2016, 08:22 PM | #38 |  
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				 | Wait till California votes.   Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
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		|  03-26-2016, 08:23 PM | #39 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nebe  Wow. Bernie SMOKED Clinton today.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  Expected. Aside from Washington AK and HI Don't really mean much,
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		|  03-26-2016, 09:06 PM | #40 |  
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				 | March 15.   The date Clinton lost her momentum.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-27-2016, 09:25 AM | #41 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nebe  March 15.   The date Clinton lost her momentum.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  Clinton never had momentum, just consistent backing. That's the difference, she doesn't have to create a groundswell, if she can just keep her support she's good to go. |  
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		|  03-27-2016, 09:53 AM | #42 |  
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				 | Rich old ladies.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-27-2016, 10:44 AM | #43 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  Clinton never had momentum, just consistent backing. That's the difference, she doesn't have to create a groundswell, if she can just keep her support she's good to go. |  And let's face it .. She could murder someone and her support won't waiver 😁
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		|  03-27-2016, 04:52 PM | #44 |  
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		|  03-27-2016, 07:23 PM | #45 |  
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				 | I wonder what that count would like without those super delegates?Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-27-2016, 07:29 PM | #46 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  I wonder what that count would like without those super delegates?Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  That's really irrelevant and if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications.
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		|  03-27-2016, 09:01 PM | #47 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  That's really irrelevant and if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  It's not irrelevant to Bernie.....
 
Clinton has a 239 delegate lead without them.....or a 679 delegate lead with them.
 
We will see how relevant they are when the dust settles....
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		|  03-27-2016, 09:07 PM | #48 |  
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				 | Didn't the super delegates hurt Clinton 8 years ago?Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-28-2016, 05:22 AM | #49 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  Didn't the super delegates hurt Clinton 8 years ago?Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-28-2016, 10:17 AM | #50 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  That's really irrelevant and if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  "That's (the superdelegates) really irrelevant "
 
Right.  It's irrelevent that she started the primaries with 40% of the total delegates, already in her pocket.
 
"if the GOP has a contested convention will be irrelevant as well. Jim will just have to reconcile the moral implications."
 
If Trump comes into the convention with less than 50% of the total delegates supporting him, then he didn't win anything in my opinion.  I have always said that if you don't get 50% o fth etotal, the fair thing is to have a runoff.
 
On your side, IF Bernie went to the convention with more than 50% of the total pledged delegatres, but Clinton won thatnls to the superdelegates, that would be immoral to me.    It's not going to happen.  Which is too bad, I was hoping to see the reaction.
 
On my side, there may be some things I need to reconcile, you are correct.  And that's the difference between us.  I can admit it when my side is hitting below the belt.  You can't, no matter how obvious it is, you will always deny and/or ooze moral relativism. |  
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		|  03-28-2016, 10:18 AM | #51 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  Didn't the super delegates hurt Clinton 8 years ago?Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  03-28-2016, 10:23 AM | #52 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  Right.  It's irrelevent that she started the primaries with 40% of the total delegates, already in her pocket. |  Super delegates only make up 20% of the Dem total.
 
Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement. If the GOP followed the same they'd have a mechanism to obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party. |  
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		|  03-28-2016, 10:57 AM | #53 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement.
 Hey you're a relativist.  For you, talking about morality is like talking about chicken soup.  If you like it, it's good.  If you hate it, it's bad.  And if you add some salt, it's an improvement.
 
 If the GOP followed the same they'd have a mechanism to obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party.
 |  Wow, three progressive propaganda words in one sentence--obstruct, radical, and hijacked.  
 
What's so "radical" about Trump?  He hasn't lived his life much differently than many rich folks and celebrities.  And he's been pretty much a "centrist" in the way he's run his businesses.
 
And he hasn't "hijacked" the Republican Party any more than did what you call Neo-Cons, and what others call RINOs.  Nor any more than Progressives have "hijacked" the Democrat Party. |  
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		|  03-28-2016, 11:28 AM | #54 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement. If the GOP followed the same they'd have a mechanism to obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party. |  "Besides, the system isn't immoral, it's actually an improvement...obstruct a radical candidate who's hijacked the party"
 
DING DING DING!!  Because to liberal elitists (like you), the people you claim to care about, cannot be trusted to decide who to nominate.  
 
So tell us Spence, who exactly are the registered Democrats whose primary vote doesn't matter to you, unless you happen to approve?  Blacks?  Mexicans?  Stay-at-home moms?  The poor?  Everyone who didn't go to college?
 
Boy did you tee THAT ONE up for anyone who understands what "democracy" means.
 
This from Spence, a person who I'm sure claims to care about Democracy, who said that if teh majority votes in a way he doesn't likje, then "it's an improvement" if instead, we make deals behind the scenes, to get the outcome that serves the power brokers rather than the outcome that reflects the will of the people you claim to care about.
 
Holy, holy, sh*t.  How can you possibly not see the fascism in that?
 
If Trump gets 50.0001% of the delegates, he's the nominee, that's the way it works on my side, whether I happen to like it or not.  That's called democracy.  Yeesh... |  
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		|  03-29-2016, 12:05 AM | #55 |  
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					Originally Posted by detbuch  Wow, three progressive propaganda words in one sentence--obstruct, radical, and hijacked.  
 What's so "radical" about Trump?  He hasn't lived his life much differently than many rich folks and celebrities.  And he's been pretty much a "centrist" in the way he's run his businesses.
 
 |  I know right?....Trump is a Republidem who draws his support from the middle....Conservatives don't like him, the Republican establishment doesn't like him....whacko leftists don't like him.....the Main Stream Media doesn't like him....folks who are in the country illegally don't like him....folk who encourage folks to come here illegally and stay here illegally don't like him.....the "middle"...including a lot of democrats really like him....he's exactly the candidate many on the left have been demanding from the Republicans for years, someone who was more centrist maybe even pro abortion who was not rehearsed and owned by the establishment and who offered lots of "red meat" in debates and on the campaign trail for the main Stream Media  and Democrat operatives to chew on....he's thriving in the cultural and political sewer that the left has helped create for us and often celebrates.....yet, they act like they are appalled  , dismayed   and scream   for something entirely different like spoiled little children  ....they'll never be happy  
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