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		|  11-11-2003, 10:31 PM | #1 |  
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				 SALTWATER PLUG HISTORY 
 Are there any books out there on saltwater plug history?
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		|  11-12-2003, 09:15 AM | #2 |  
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				 | thats an awsome question. and I dont know all I can remeber is reading some books back in the early 80s and there was talk of plugs???If You find any info post it for us ...
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		|  11-12-2003, 09:43 AM | #3 |  
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 I have been working on a "secret project" for the last few months but like the development of the atomic bomb I am still a year or so from sending it to someone to review and see if it merits printing. A plug history is included as well as a section of the history of the sport on the Cape and Islands as well. In the spring I hope to start the data/interview process with a number of folks, got over a hundred pages done now and I just started. This is gonna take a while.  |  
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		|  11-12-2003, 05:40 PM | #4 |  
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				 | Hey I'm working on a book too, but I've got to do part of it over. I've been coloring the grass red!  |  
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		|  11-12-2003, 09:26 PM | #5 |  
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				 | I hear tell there's a book on vintage saltwater plugs coming out  mayb in a few years/1=2?..if they ever finish it...time will tell.///// not yours flap, someone else. 
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		|  11-12-2003, 09:27 PM | #6 |  
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				 a 
 Thanks, i have been trying some searches on barnes and noble and haven't found anything excluively saltwater. Whatever i can find i will post.
 Sounds like we may get an excellent history if you guys start pulishing! Thanks again.
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		|  11-12-2003, 10:03 PM | #7 |  
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 Mine isn't just about plugs.It's about Striper fishing now and way back when on good ol'Cape Cod. |  
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		|  11-12-2003, 10:04 PM | #8 |  
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				 | I'll buy a few copies...autographed of course  |  
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		|  11-12-2003, 10:05 PM | #9 |  
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 BTW, Ed Poore of Sagamore should do it. He has been talking about it for years. He has the best collection of anyone I know. All vintage Striper plugs. |  
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		|  11-13-2003, 12:24 PM | #10 |  
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 FLAP, sounds great and a book like that will sell like crazy. |  
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		|  11-17-2003, 04:22 PM | #11 |  
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				saltwater book's
			 
 I know of 3 people who are now printing books on saltwater plugs. 
The first one is a paperback book that should be out in a year. 
This book is more of a collection of pic's with names of makers and models.  I talked with him last week at the show and he said he had about 90 pages done,but he has found a new job so things will slow down for a while.
 
The 2nd book will be a hard cover with 2 of the largest collections and rare lures known to man kind     From the Eastcoast.  
Not only will it have pic's of colors and models /boxes but also the history behind the company and  catalogs and full documation on the lures. This will be the book to buy !! 
aS  for when will it be in the book store's ???  I wish I could tell you, I have been asking for a while, I hope it's out in the next year or so. 
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		|  11-18-2003, 12:06 AM | #12 |  
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 VB  Thanks for the heads up on the two books. could ya let me know when they come out?  Would really appreciate it.
 Mean time i'll try to find some useful info to post.
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		|  11-18-2003, 09:39 PM | #13 |  
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				Hey Flaptail
			 
 Any place in your book for some info. about what fish are a bit offshore in what seasons like one of your OTW articles when you referred to such matters from your youth experiences working on boats? |  
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		|  11-19-2003, 07:19 AM | #14 |  
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 Yep. BTW the tentative title of the book when it gets done is "Chasing Fifty", Subtitle :"Striper Fishing on Cape Cod, Then and Now" it has a couple conotations. |  
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		|  11-19-2003, 07:55 AM | #15 |  
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				 | this will b great[books] but it's going to b a double edge sword,,,great for info, but will also drive up the price on vintage plugs.. great for the seller , but hell on the buyer.  save ya peenies boy's ya gonna needem. |  
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		|  11-19-2003, 08:16 AM | #16 |  
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				 Its not Hawaii 5 0 
 So when is your birthday Steve? You`re still a few away from the big 50 are you not? 
Just hit mine recently....or it hit me you could say.
 
Best of luck with the book....I`m good for a few copies, autographed please!
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		|  11-19-2003, 09:41 AM | #17 |  
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				 | 10/7/05 will be the big 5-OH! |  
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		|  11-19-2003, 11:06 AM | #18 |  
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		|  11-19-2003, 12:13 PM | #19 |  
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 You can laugh Dave but you don't have that far to go down the road either!  |  
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		|  11-19-2003, 01:20 PM | #20 |  
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		|  11-20-2003, 05:16 PM | #21 |  
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				 | I just read  what could be a preview of the Holy Grail saltwater book    
Let's just say the pictures and history and "behind the maker" stories are unreal .
 
You all  will die when this book comes out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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		|  11-20-2003, 08:33 PM | #22 |  
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		| Originally posted by Indanite So when is your birthday Steve? You`re still a few away from the big 50 are you not?
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		|  11-23-2003, 01:37 PM | #23 |  
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				 | The 2nd book will be a hard cover with 2 of the largest collections and rare lures known to man kind  From the Eastcoast.  
 Showtime!!!!!!
 Same book VB?
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		|  11-23-2003, 02:25 PM | #24 |  
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				 | dien is easy, liven is  the hard part, findin is even harder than diein.....vb,,beware the new pin collector   
these prices in the book goin to b for the insurance co. or r they goin to b true  market prices.???   speak up man ,I ain't gettin any younger.
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		|  11-23-2003, 05:42 PM | #25 |  
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				Da book's
			 
 Yes It's the same hard cover book , Winch 
I have pic's but not sure if I can post them ???? send me a PM if you want
 
ANd Mr Sam your just getting older   
As for prices ???   What I read does not have any prices. Will they add prices when it's at the book store ? I have no idea
 
I hope "A" book comes out soon.
 
Steve is a great writer and can't wait for his. 
The paper back should be out first and then the Hard cover with History soon after that!
 
VB.
 
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		|  11-23-2003, 06:20 PM | #26 |  
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				 | winter's long goin in these parts, hope ta see one ofum bafor I go. |  
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		|  11-23-2003, 09:22 PM | #27 |  
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				 | VB ,,,,,,You would Chit Your Pants If You seen Steves Cave |  
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		|  11-23-2003, 09:48 PM | #28 |  
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				 | don't think he wood,,,vb's is much, much, much bigger an better.  |  
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		|  11-23-2003, 11:48 PM | #29 |  
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				 | OK----  here is a layman's attempt to give some plug history to hold us till "THE BOOKS" are published,hopefully soon.
 Evidently the first lures used in acient times were made of reeds , feathers and cloth. I remember seeing a lure made out of reeds with wood hooks in some book,think NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC, some time ago.
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		|  11-24-2003, 12:07 AM | #30 |  
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				 | Acording to Nick Karas in Striped Bass Fishing, Quote" It's difficult to determine just when the first artificial lures were introduced to salt water. Though "flies" made of cloth and feathers had been used to lure trout and grayling to the hook in acient Salonika and later,even before the Romans came to Britian to catch salmon,ther application to salt water and other species of fish was extremely tardy.Actually,the general use of plugs,spoons,and other lures in salt water,or even fresh water,had to wait for the development of rods,lines and especially reels."
 Hope this is useful and will post more when i get some more info.
 
 Hop in if you have anything else to add.
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