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		|  02-12-2016, 09:20 AM | #1 |  
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				Wow, unprecidented to say the least!
			 
 The state Alcoholic Beverages Control Commission on Friday is set to hand down an unprecedented 90-day license suspension to a beer distributor that paid Boston bars tens of thousands of dollars to carry its beers and freeze out competitors.http://www.beeradvocate.com/communit...-deals.385431/ |  
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		|  02-12-2016, 09:57 AM | #2 |  
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				 | That is amazing.  A lot like the music industryPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:39 AM | #3 |  
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				 | I know that the few distributors in RI have a monopoly.  Protected by laws that will not allow any competition.  Was told that RI will not allow mail order wine to be delivered to citizens in the state because of this monopoly.  Maybe this is a connection to long ago control by organized crime. |  
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:52 AM | #4 |  
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				 | I think that twitter rant is why Pretty Things is no more. The little guy tried to buck the system rigged against him in a very public forum and pissed off the establishment. It seemed odd to me that they closed up shop. Seemed like they were doing well and had a fan base. If they got muscled out by bars and distributors because after that rant they had the ABC all over them, well, I guess that would make more sense. I could be completely talking out of my arse as well. Wouldn't be the first time. |  
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		|  02-12-2016, 03:28 PM | #5 |  
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				 | Dennis, sometimes RI is so like Jersey. sometimes..... |  
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		|  02-12-2016, 03:56 PM | #6 |  
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				 | From what I have been able to piece together, Martha posted something and then their distributor was the one to get dinged and now suspended. Been hearing that was Jim Koch's issue as well, but he blasted the woman at Row 34 instead of the industry at large. Payola, just like the old rock radio days only for beer. Still chasing down some Pretty Things Fumapapa and Meadowlark in the mean time.
 Also something on BA site about Bar Rescue a$$hat spouting off about 60% of craft beer being crap.
 
 I just want to drink good beer with good people, that's all. Not this mess. Pretty Things was very good beer and Dann and Martha were very, very good people. Miss 'em and their Pretty Beers and Ales!
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		|  02-12-2016, 04:17 PM | #7 |  
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				 | Just drug dealers doing what drug dealers do.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 04:22 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by ecduzitgood  Just drug dealers doing what drug dealers do.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 04:42 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by fishbones  That's an irresponsible statement.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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I abused alcohol and other drugs throughout my life and found alcohol to be the most harmful and potentially dangerous of them all.
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		|  02-12-2016, 04:48 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by MikeD  I think that twitter rant is why Pretty Things is no more. The little guy tried to buck the system rigged against him in a very public forum and pissed off the establishment. It seemed odd to me that they closed up shop. Seemed like they were doing well and had a fan base. If they got muscled out by bars and distributors because after that rant they had the ABC all over them, well, I guess that would make more sense. I could be completely talking out of my arse as well. Wouldn't be the first time. |  this is pure speculation, but it could be that they were in financial trouble and these payments were putting them further into the hole so they decided to expose it.. |  
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		|  02-12-2016, 04:50 PM | #11 |  
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				 | There's no doubt alcohol is dangerous, but there are millions of people using alcohol responsibly every day, which is not the case with many drugs (like heroin). |  
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		|  02-12-2016, 05:03 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Rockport24  There's no doubt alcohol is dangerous, but there are millions of people using alcohol responsibly every day, which is not the case with many drugs (like heroin). |  Very true but I don't see advertising for heroine or other recreational drugs. Alcohol and it's use is somewhat celebrated or in the very least condoned by most. If I start a thread about Marijuana how would that be received?
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		|  02-12-2016, 05:06 PM | #13 |  
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				 | My intentions were to just remind people it is a harmful drug and this website does have underage members.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 05:54 PM | #14 |  
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				 | Alcohol is legal.  This is a beer forum.  If you start a thread about marijuana it should go in the proper forum.  I don't know what that forum is.  Calling beer distributors drug dealers is as assinign as calling the kid at dunkin donuts a drug dealer.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 05:55 PM | #15 |  
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				 | Also,  it is a potentially harmful drug.  Science indicates that the way the vast majority of people use it,  it is a beneficial drug.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 06:20 PM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by fishbones  That's an irresponsible statement.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 06:24 PM | #17 |  
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				 | Getting a little off topic folks. Please keep to the topic and start other threads for other stuff. 
 On the topic, there was some talk of issues with the 22 oz format, but me thinks that is BS. Others do the same and Maine does 16.9 oz format and they all seem to be doing fine. Dann said at one point that PTBAP was a "project" and supposed to be temporary. Maybe just took on a life of its own (thankfully so). Hope that they start anew and do great in whatever that may be. Again, my personal favorite "beer people". Miss 'em.
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		|  02-12-2016, 06:46 PM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by zimmy  Alcohol is legal.  This is a beer forum.  If you start a thread about marijuana it should go in the proper forum.  I don't know what that forum is.  Calling beer distributors drug dealers is as assinign as calling the kid at dunkin donuts a drug dealer.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 07:03 PM | #19 |  
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				 | Sugar is the worst drug of allPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 08:30 PM | #20 |  
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				 | Next thing you know,all the young,impressionable members will assume that fishermen drink and smoke. I am here to say that I have met some that do neither,some that do both,some who just choose one.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 09:35 PM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by fishbones  That's an irresponsible statement.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:04 PM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  I'd go so far as to say it was an idiotic statement   Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  That was my first thought, but I try to give the benefit of the doubt. Even to people who don't have a clue. He jumped in and basically took a thread in a beer forum that was interesting and decided to put down members of the site by calling them drug addicts. It's both idiotic and irresponsible.
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:17 PM | #23 |  
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				 | The Beer forum is a Happy Place....
 You want to get on your soap box head on over the Pit of Despair (aka the Political Forum)
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:27 PM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  I'd go so far as to say it was an idiotic statement   Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  I always look forward to your response...lol 
Look up dealer and then look up alcohol..drug dealer is indeed appropriate.
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:30 PM | #25 |  
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				 | Maybe for the children we shouldn't have this forum or maybe there should be an age restriction on who can eneter.You folks always seem to be looking out for the children after all.
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:51 PM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by fishbones  That was my first thought, but I try to give the benefit of the doubt. Even to people who don't have a clue. He jumped in and basically took a thread in a beer forum that was interesting and decided to put down members of the site by calling them drug addicts. It's both idiotic and irresponsible.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 10:58 PM | #27 |  
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		|  02-12-2016, 11:06 PM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by ecduzitgood  I never said anyone here was an addict did I.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  02-12-2016, 11:07 PM | #29 |  
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